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అహం బ్రహ్మోస్మి & ecstatic epilepsy

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అహం బ్రహ్మోస్మి అనే జ్ఞానం ,నేను తదితరము అన్న భావం నశించి నప్పుడు కలుగుతుందని అప్పుడు కలిగే భావం బ్రహ్మానందం అని మనకి శంకరాచార్యులు చెప్పారు
భేద భావం నశించటం ఒక మానసిక వైకల్యమని అలౌకిక అనుభూతులన్నీ రసాయనాల సమ తుల్యత లోపించినప్పుడు కలుగుతాయని నిన్న పెద్దాయన అనిల్ అనంత స్వామి whil talking to the faculty and students of IISc on the topic ‘The man that was not there " లో అన్నారు He has explained the narrative self with great clarity The analogy with center of gravity was very apt.
I talked to him after the meeting was over. He calls that aham brahmosmi state ecstatic epilepsy.
Are they really the same ?
Of course he said he did not know much about advaitham. Therfore he is talking about aloukika anubhuthulu I think he did not want to hurt any one’s feelings

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September 17, 2015 at 4:10 am

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  1. This is related to my essay to INAE. It is also obvious that Anil Anantaswamy is honest when he said he does not know advaita philosophy.. Most do not understand while they claim to know and comment. All the people who translate advaita as monism are people whose understanding is limited. అహం బ్రహ్మోస్మి అనే జ్ఞానం ,నేను తదితరము అన్న భావం నశించి నప్పుడు కలుగుతుందని అప్పుడు కలిగే భావం బ్రహ్మానందం అని మనకి శంకరాచార్యులు చెప్పారు. I do not think he said it anywhere. The sentence by itself has no meaning. When Krishna said in BG – విద్యావినయసమ్పన్నే బ్రాహ్మణే గవి హస్తిని|
    శుని చైవ శ్వపాకే చ పణ్డితాః సమదర్శినః||B G 5-18 ||
    Samadarsini does not mean that a jnani is in an epilepsy fit where he cannot distinguish between different objects. The learned see the commonality, the substratum which supports the external name form and functionality. The Brahman is one and the same in all – be a Brahmana, a cow, an elephant, a dog, and a dog-eater. The changeless all-pervading substratum, the essence of all matters, which is the absolute truth, is supporting all that is seen, felt and ever changing in the worldly matters. Not that one is able to see with these physical eyes but he must be aware of it. It is the greatest truth that binds the whole universe. The stars, the sea, the water, the animals, the trees and, in fact, everything is pervaded by Brahman (the truth). The externalities, the forms, the names, the changing moments and even the matter are different. None of these are “true” in the sense of eternal. While looking at the world, you should be aware of this truth. Such awareness is not common among us.
    Coming to Anil Anantaswamy what he said is logical and consciousness states in health and ill-health of mind could present the same patterns of behaviour. I believe the ecstatic epilepsy he refers to is often much more plausible than spiritual experience. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa was characterized by many doctors by similar diagnosis at that time. Neurological studies and behavioral psychology studies are important to allay peoples confusion about spirituality and some god-men’s claims their own behaviour in crowds.

    V V S Sarma

    September 26, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    • I am aware of the diagnosis about Ramakrishna Parama Hamsa .I had that in mind when I raised the issue with Anil Anantha Narayana In many cases the ecstatic epiiepsy is more plausible than spiritual experience.What about the very few remaining?That is where opinions differ

      kavanasarma

      September 26, 2015 at 11:32 pm

      • Brahmananda is definitely not ecstasy. It is equanimity but not lack of pattern recognition. Ramakrishna’s ecstacy is because of tantra practices and kali worship he was associated with it. Ecstatic epilepsy is a mental state concept. It may be a syndrome leading to alzheimar’s characterized by a sick mind traceable to neurochemical imbalance. I experienced and my wife suffered in my hypo-natremia experience without any advaitha connection.
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        V V S Sarma

        September 27, 2015 at 4:10 pm


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